Italie 2012-09_La fondation métaphysique de l'Eveil évolutif

so in evolutionary enlightenment just to help people to conceive of or to conceptualize these metaphysical absolutes that are really beyond conception to help us conceive of them we draw a circle and we say this up this the the totality of everything that exists and doesn't exist is exists in this circle this is just this is just a diagram it doesn't really mean anything right it doesn't really mean anything so you say it's in this circle there's a circle in within that diagram is everything exists and doesn't exist we draw a line down the middle you see everything on the bottom of the diagram is the unborn uncreated timeless formless ground of all being like here that's a we bottom half the top half is the entire creative process that as far as we know how to beginning in time 13.7 or or 14 billion years ago but maybe it actually is also equal eternal but when you enter into one likened to being all you become aware if you go deeply enough into it you lose awareness of becoming and all you see is being and being itself is absolute non-relative being is absolute non-relative being is absolutely none relative there is no becoming there is no becoming there is no becoming that's why some teachers or spiritual masters who awaken so deeply to be coming if you say who are you they say I don't exist and there are teachers that actually say that who are you and then say I don't exist and then what they were referring to is their identity now they become so identified with the unborn the uncreated timeless formless grounded being itself that they that their sense of identity is that they don't exist that they've never been born and that this doesn't really even exist this is just a dream right because they're really somewhere else they're there you follow so they say I don't exist and that's why they say the refer to the body is just the body it's not my body it's just this weird thing and I don't you know they don't really have much identification with right and you know some people fake it but for some people this is actually real but I want you to know why and the why is because of what they're identifying with what they're experiencing directly so for example when the great 20s age Ramana Maharshi was dying and he had cancer and he was dying and people were grieving that they were going to lose him he said but where could I go I'm not going anywhere because because from his perspective the he was so deeply I awake to identified with this timeless formless round absolute realm of existence he said there nothing changes there's no coming and no going right there's no birth and there's no death is no coming and the going there's no change so from his perspective because he was so awake this deep was part of reality itself the arising and passing away of the body and of the mind and the personality of the world is just this it's a dream right so dreams it's almost like you're looking from the bottom of the ocean right you you're looking at the bottom the ocean and this dream appears but yours you're at that point you're much more you're so much more identified with the timeless formless non-relative absolute nature of reality and of yourself and you're actually awake to it it's not just an intellectual understanding you're so it's your what your direct experiences so everything else just it appears to be an illusion when I interviewed at cartel a whatever was 15 years ago or 80 I don't remember once I said because he also is that he's awake to this ground this time was formless being he has a deep profound realization of the of the deepest part of reality and deepest part of himself that's his perspective and and so he gave the a way he answered me showed me how he sees the world i said i don't know i think i said is the world real and he said the world is a ripple on the surface of being right the world all of manifestation the entire universe time and time space and all of creation is just a ripple on the surface of being so the infinite being and there's a little ripple on the surface of being and that's all all all of manifestation that was his perspective he was speaking honestly that because he's so identified with being wherever I the wood way to understand this is we draw a circle the bottom half of the circle is being the top half of the circle is infinite becoming evolutionary becoming you follow so his perspective is way down there at the bottom is saying so if you look if you look if you imagine there was this is the circle there's a split in the middle and here's the surface of the ocean of being and you go right to the bottom of the ocean to being and you look to the top imagine that you're at the bottom of the ocean and you're looking at the top you can see that to all have create all of the crew all the entire universe and all in all of evolution it would look to you from all the way down there like a little ripple something but your experience is so far removed right you are your experience is that you are so profoundly removed from all of that moving around right it's rare for an individual to have such a deep experience of that ground so you can see then how from that perspective of being at the bottom of the circle and looking up that's what it would look like right but what the point here that is that the whole both the circle itself both both the bottom half in the top half of the circle this whole circle is absolutely non-relative infinite right is one that is not too right then as you enter into you when you go more deeply into the bottom half of the circle in the way i just described you lose awareness of the top half of the circle and what you're awake to is the non relative or absolute nature of the bottom half of the circle which is infinite the infinite nature of the ocean of the ground of being of the ocean of being itself you're aware of the it's infinite nature right but the same thing happens when you go in the opposite direction when you rise up out of timeless formless being itself when you emerge out of it which is what the creative process did when the universe was created it was this profound emergence out of timeless formless uncreated infinite being this creative process ignited or was initiated time and space in all the creative process emerging that entire process started now the thing is when you when you when you go when you if you go up to the surface of that you go up and up and up to the surface and then you you burst forth you burst forth as time and space in the whole universe and potentially multi multi versus maybe there's not one universes maybe there's many universes maybe these billions and billions and countless unimaginable universes that are connected to universes to five dimensions and ten dimensions and eight dimensions way beyond what we can even conceive ever imagined now but we don't have to understand all the physics but all you need to understand is that is that a process a creative process emerged out of that and once you burst forth when you break the surface of that of that of the of the of timelessness and formlessness when you break the surface of it your identity the quality of your experience changes absolutely now the absolute nature of it doesn't change absolute means infinite and eternal infinite and eternal beginningless and endless infinite and eternal beginningless and endless right non relative absolute infinite and eternal beginningless and endless that doesn't shift because that's the nature of every aspect of this remember the two is one but when it when the one becomes two there's there's an absolute distinction between timeless formulas being an infinite becoming so when you break the surface of the of the ocean of timelessness your ex your experience of your own self and your own nature changes absolute there's an absolute change in absolute chiptune now now what you're you experience is is the infinite it's not relative it's an infinite beginningless and endless infinite creative aspiration it's an infant infinite it means endless there's an infinite creative aspiration to become yourself in and through time-space and form and mind