Italie 2012-02_Un entrainement pour la vie

hello being in here with this teaching which i absolutely trust i find it more difficult what's it more difficult i think i never had so many thoughts uh sitting in here before oh i see okay now i know what we're talking about well that's good that means you go so that means you're going deeper to be honest means you're going deeper very good and so then when you're having these thoughts and what you and then based on what i've been teaching what are you doing no relationship right no relationship so when you understand a relationship it doesn't matter whether the thoughts present or it's not present it's the same thing if you if you're insisting that there's quietness then if there's a thought there's going to be a problem but if you're more looking at it from perspective of non-duality then whether the thoughts there or the thoughts not there it doesn't make any difference thoughts are not a problem so if you therefore you have the whole position of no relationship is the position of freedom right now if you have a relationship with the thought then that's going to lead to all kinds of things because then you then it's then you have to say yes you have to say no you have to get involved you get involved in a whole creative process but if you have no relationship then nothing happens no karma's created there's no result so that means the presence of thought equals no result nothing happens no result now i'm a teacher of evolutionary enlightenment but evolutionary enlightenment is based upon the foundation of evolutionary enlightenment traditional enlightenment so first i learned about traditional enlightenment and then slowly i developed this new teaching of evolutionary enlightenment so if i have a short time with people if we only had five days two days or one day i wouldn't be talking about traditional enlightenment at all i would only speak about evolutionary enlightenment but now we have 14 days so now i'm going to start at the beginning and teach everybody i'll give you all i can do is give an introduction to a big topic which is the traditional enlightenment and we're not going to spend the whole retreat on it but i i i feel an obligation to introduce people to this to the traditional orientation so in traditional enlightenment the goal is the the actual goal in traditional enlightenment is to be free from karma so that as you probably know if you've been to india to be if the fully enlightened if you're if you are what they call in vedanta or in buddhism fully enlightened it means you're achieving much that you're fully enlightened in this life and the technical definition is your karma's finished so if your karma's finished then it's over everything's come to the end so and that's in the traditional enlightenment definition which is different than evolutionary enlightenment the traditional definition of enlightenment that's the end it means the candle is burnt out right so it's all over zero so that's what we're looking into so if so how this relates to the thought process is if you have no relationship to the content of consciousness if you have no relationship to the content of consciousness which is no relationship to thought then the arising of thought will will yield no result there will be no result that's the whole point in the traditional enlightenment model which we're exploring now there's no karmic result and so that's the whole point and and you know and nobody here has to wait to discover the truth of that because you just you realize oh all this is happening and if i have no relationship to it there's no result so it means the presence of thought the presence of memory the presence of fear the presence of anxiety the presence of anything it does it mean it doesn't have to mean anything it can mean nothing whatsoever it can mean absolutely nothing there can these things can all exist and there can be no result and so if there's if if you if there's the arising of thought the arising of emotion but there's no result you you it you realize you can be free right now you don't have to wait and you can be an enlightened person right now if you can if you can hold this position of no relationship then there can be no result and that's how you we do it in this kind of formal meditation context and then as i was explaining in the first question then if you can do it here because it's very safe here because you're just with nobody's speaking there's no engagement you're just sitting we're just all meditating together so if you can understand how to how to cause no karmic result how you have the power and the means through your own intention to to cause no karmic result in here then you can put it into practice outside of the safe position because this is a very safe position because you're not talking to anybody you're not engaging with anybody you're just you and your own mind but then as i was saying as i was saying when i was speaking to him you find out how you find out how true that is outside this safe context when you actually are in the world engaging with other people you find that can you also cause there to be no karmic result in that case would be no negative result can then the result in the world of action would be only a positive result no negative result that would be the test if people find that they're still acting out of ignorance out of unconscious motivations that are causing suffering to other people and causing suffering to oneself if that is still happening it means that one isn't doing this if one is in in the world of engagement is and it is still acting out of unconscious motivation which is causing suffering to other people and suffering to oneself it means that this no relationship teaching has not been internalized so that's why this is what we're doing everybody is very important because if you you first you want to learn how just being very still it's you just it's just you by yourself it's very safe if you can disengage from your own thought process if you can disengage from your own thought process you find if you can do it can you disengage from your own thought process can you cultivate some objectivity in relationship to your own thought process can you do it do you have do you have the power of awareness or if you've cultivated enough power in your own awareness to disengage from your own thought process enough to become a master of your own mind and emotions and ultimately your destiny so this is like a training ground for life it's training for life so if you that's why learning how to assume no no relationship assume the position of no relationship here and learning how to assume in the position of no relationship take the position of no relationship and take the position of no relationship and take the position of no relationship will teach you we will train you right how you can be aware of what you're doing when you're not in such a safe this is very safe when you get up and go out of this room and if you start talking to people it's not safe anymore because the minute you do this uses no protection you that means you have to act is right someone said hello how are you what are you going to do then so then it's not safe because you need to respond right here you're very protected where everybody's in silence you don't have to respond so you can just do this practice you can see how it works but outs but if we start talking and someone says how are you or whatever they say you're in trouble because then you have to react you have to respond and then in your response in the in right in your response it'll be revealed how free how conscious how liberated how aware you are or not you follow so just so we're just starting at the very beginning this is just at the very beginning of the we're just starting the very beginning of the teaching this is a very small part of a very big teaching but this is very this is this is the this is the build this is an essential foundation or building block of the teaching and i can't tell you how important it is it's so absolutely important it's more i can't i can't overemphasize how important it is you