Italie 2011-04_La liberté Fondamentale

so we're talking about the discovery to the awakening to and the discovery of the deepest part of our self that's never been born never done to the stream of time what is its nature it is its nature is freedom right right yeah so before before anything else before everything else i am free and then everything else everything else exists on top of the freedom right versus for most people that don't don't know yet their deepest conviction is what like you just said bondage bondage so it's a very big difference right yeah so the reason why we want to assume no relationship to the content of consciousness is to discover that primary freedom the reason we want to assume their relationship to the content of consciousness is to discover that primary freedom yeah right yeah so would you say that's a valuable thing to do yeah how valuable very valuable very valuable on a scale from 1 to 10 how valuable 10. very good so the reason we're doing this is so we can awaken to and discover the deepest dimension of ourselves right the nature of which is a primary freedom and what's interesting about this is mystics yogis and mystics from all the great traditions have realized this and discovered this and known this so in all the great traditions the greatest mystics will describe in different will describe in different ways the same discovery of this primary or inherent freedom that exists at the very ground of our of ourselves so the true self with the capital s is the self that's always already free this nature is freedom already it's nature's freedom already it's nature's freedom already so that's why we are that's why we're uh that's why we're assuming no relationships with the content of consciousness so we can have discover have that discovery for ourselves huh yeah and what's very interesting about it is it's very scientific because anybody who who genuinely assumes no relationship to the content of consciousness if they're really doing it only if and only if only if they're really doing it well we'll discover this because it's because it's true that the fundamental ground of our experience is a primary or fundamental freedom and the reason that we have we're coming together the reason why men and women go to the top of the himalayas to assume no relationship to content of consciousness or the white people from all over the world gather and come a situation like this is because it's hard to see this because it's very subtle because we usually look at our experience through a lens that is very gross it lacks subtlety so we often we don't see it and very specifically in this case because very specifically in this case because as i've been explaining because we've been trained and conditioned only to see objects things we miss it because it's easy to see things big things small things and if things get very small you have to look through a microscope then you can even through see you can even see subatomic things particles you can see but it's very difficult to see this the great this the deepest ground of our own on our own very being it's not an object so you need so there has to be an enormous capacity for subtlety in our perception has to be cultivated an enormous capacity for subtlety like i remember i kept saying my teacher said i'm glad you found a friend you're never going to be able to see i'm glad you found a friend you're never going to be able to see i'm glad you found a friend you're never going to be able to see same thing so the reason people go to the himalayas or come to places like this is because they they know in order to be able to see and recognize this primordial truth that the nature of the self with the capital s is freedom without beginning and no end is because we is because we need to create the conditions where we can concentrate turn our attention within so our attention our inner eye can awaken and it can be and we can begin if it gets there's a capacity to perceive that which is subtle or not so obvious will develop in us and then we can we can awaken to become aware of things and truths that otherwise is not apparent to us yeah right right so that's why people have been going to the himalayas for so long and gathering in groups like this to do this kind of practice because there's a degree of subtlety involved that requires concentration focus and uh and leaving go of all all distractions that'll take us out of this