VVRLPP-05_L'importance d'essayer

um i was really struck by what the lady before said about um what i became aware of in my own practice was how meditation is a position of no relationship as opposed to being in a process of letting go because then you're actually in relationship that's right that's really good a really big distinction very good that's very good and the idea here is you want is to become established and in our relationship position so that at the deepest level of your being that's always your position yeah and it's like you're either meditating or you're not like you can't try to meditate no you can try but you're not meditating if you're trying to meditate i i i wouldn't be i wouldn't say that why i was worried you're gonna say that uh because aspiration is everything so in the way that i see it any bit of any bit of right effort is all sacred even the smallest drop of right effort is sacred yeah and i was also compelled by actually from you saying that the difference between making effort and not making effort is everything right now from the perspective of non-duality in relationship to whatever it would mean to go all the way whatever it means to go all the way whatever it would mean to go all the way our relationship to that has to be whatever it takes so if it's going to take an enormous amount of effort and or no effort at all it's the same to us because at that point we no longer make any distinction between making effort and not making effort you just do the right thing whatever that is the right thing may require enormous effort willpower self-control and it may require absolutely nothing it all depends but thing is at that point from perspective non-duality you're because your commitment is non-relative is absolute you're no longer thinking about effort an effort or no effort it's not the issue for you anymore it's just simply not an issue because there's no end point precisely good that's very good there's no end point the other thing is the way that i teach enlightenment is very action oriented it's not just the experience of being free from oriented not just the experience of being free from just the experience of transcendence i'm free from the mind and free from time i'm free from the world i'm i'm unhooked disconnected it's that's not in my teaching that that's it's the foundation of it but this teaching is all about being able to respond in the most appropriate way that's really the most that's what i emphasize being able to respond in the most appropriate way so that's why that's why i i always point towards the non-duality of of of uh of absolute effort and effortlessness because if i only emphasize effortlessness it's going to become very dualistic because then it's going to become very rigid the only the only right approach is going to be no effort anything that requires effort would be seen as being the wrong direction so then that so from my point of view that's actually very dualistic from perspective nonduality absolute effort and effortlessness become indistinguishable especially because this teaching is action oriented not biased towards being but it's biased towards action letting go of everything is a spiritual prerequisite for being able to make liberated choices see so the all the teaching is all action oriented even even in the way i teach being it still all relates to action and activity i believe that the most precious spiritual resource that we have is uh is the aspiration you see but before you get to 51 because once you're at 51 it doesn't matter you know it's possible to lose faith you follow it's possible to lose faith no matter what you've experienced so having access to that aspiration is the most precious thing that there is see that's so that's really why from a certain absolute or non-dual perspective what you're saying was absolutely true because if you're trying you're not really doing it but from my point of view so so what you're saying wasn't wrong from a non-dual perspective but from my point of view the willingness to to try is is infinitely better than the loss of faith you follow and the thing is so ambivalence can be rooted out through making noble effort spiritual practice works but it only works if the is if the intention behind the practice is that it will work in other words one's relationship to the practice itself has to be serious so if you just if one does spiritual practice but there's no intention behind it it's not going to do much it'll have a very marginal effect there's certain very embedded ways of seeing the self in the world that spiritual practice motivated by noble effort you know can actually actually change but you have to but you you know the conviction has to be there then it works if the conviction isn't there and you just do the practice in itself doesn't do anything you know apparently the vehicle for the buddha was this was his his form of meditation on on the breath but but he he said i'm going to sit down under this tree and i'm not going to get up until i'm enlightened that's what made the difference it wasn't the fact that he was doing this particular form of focus on the breath meditation he said how many people how many millions of people do that practice every year and how many buddhas does it produce so it was it was his intention and there's lots of other examples like that generally speaking most of the time the individuals who make the biggest leaps in their own development are are the individuals who actually have a much deeper intention than others and that's what makes all the difference it's not the method itself so that being said the intention can be cultivated and that's what the good news the intention even if it's not there it can be developed it can be developed like a muscle it can be developed and that takes a noble effort and so this whole talk i'm getting is always a response to why i was hesitating in relationship to what you said and i was hesitant because i was appreciating the i was appreciating the the beauty and the clarity uh of your insight because you really are appreciating the nature of non-duality from your own experience so i was really appreciating that and i was feeling frustrated mildly that i couldn't give you a complete affirmation that i wanted to because what you were saying was so authentic and it was refreshingly authentic but this everything i've been saying for the last 20 minutes or so is the reason why i couldn't do that you